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		<title>By: Guillaume gets it right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guillaume gets it right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bistro Guillaume was an extravagant affair, a lusciously fitted out space with a scary wine list and prices that reflected it. The chef behind [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Temple that needs more spice</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Temple that needs more spice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 01:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] get away with the kind of nefarious under table hand shuffling that was reported in the defunct Bistro Guillaume bar that previously occupied the basement space. But dark enough to make any food photography [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Decccles, Elliot is right of course. I&#039;d be interested to hear what went wrong at Bottega. I went there recently and although the menu was boring and the wine recommendations pedestrian the food was well prepared (apart from the paper in the flat white).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Decccles, Elliot is right of course. I&#8217;d be interested to hear what went wrong at Bottega. I went there recently and although the menu was boring and the wine recommendations pedestrian the food was well prepared (apart from the paper in the flat white).</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving BG a fantastic write up and two hats has been a short term favour but the place simply does not live up to expectations. If we didn&#039;t expect so much we wouldn&#039;t be so disappointed. After the boring Age Readers Dinner and my previous dinner BG is no longer listed for return!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving BG a fantastic write up and two hats has been a short term favour but the place simply does not live up to expectations. If we didn&#8217;t expect so much we wouldn&#8217;t be so disappointed. After the boring Age Readers Dinner and my previous dinner BG is no longer listed for return!</p>
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		<title>By: deccles</title>
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		<dc:creator>deccles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I booked 2 weeks in advance and was given the table right beside the kitchen door. The Maitre D is a disgrace. I was dressed in a suit and tie and my sister was also appropriately dressed. We were looked up and down as if we were hobos. 

John Lethlelan did the review for Gourmet Traveller and &#039;The Age&#039; enough said. I will try the other crown offerings before returning here. 

The wine prices absurd, and my boned Chicken Supreme Duxelles had bones. Phillipa Sibbley was my main reason for going to Bistro G, and with melted ice cream with the Pears Belle Helene it confirmed that once again John Lethlelan and I are just going to have to disagree on what makes a fine dining experience. 

The last place I tried on his recommendation was Bottega one of the worst dining experiences of my life, on 2 separate occasions. It wasn&#039;t going to get my money a third time.

Bistro G got one thing right ... the bread and butter.

PS Great Blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I booked 2 weeks in advance and was given the table right beside the kitchen door. The Maitre D is a disgrace. I was dressed in a suit and tie and my sister was also appropriately dressed. We were looked up and down as if we were hobos. </p>
<p>John Lethlelan did the review for Gourmet Traveller and &#8216;The Age&#8217; enough said. I will try the other crown offerings before returning here. </p>
<p>The wine prices absurd, and my boned Chicken Supreme Duxelles had bones. Phillipa Sibbley was my main reason for going to Bistro G, and with melted ice cream with the Pears Belle Helene it confirmed that once again John Lethlelan and I are just going to have to disagree on what makes a fine dining experience. </p>
<p>The last place I tried on his recommendation was Bottega one of the worst dining experiences of my life, on 2 separate occasions. It wasn&#8217;t going to get my money a third time.</p>
<p>Bistro G got one thing right &#8230; the bread and butter.</p>
<p>PS Great Blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Geraldine,
I have often written about the biases displayed by AGF and Gourmet Traveller, which is only a pale imitation of AGF as far as Melbourne is concerned. There is NO restaurant in Gourmet Traveller that is not also in AGF and with an almost identical rating.
If Bistro G was really the best restaurant of the year it would be a sad reflection on Melbournes restaurants. It fails in so many areas. The two hats is a great promotion but give it a little time and diners will get its true measure.
We need something like the Zagat guide. Meantime I find word of mouth and consulting food blogs quite useful.
Better luck with your future culinary adventures</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Geraldine,<br />
I have often written about the biases displayed by AGF and Gourmet Traveller, which is only a pale imitation of AGF as far as Melbourne is concerned. There is NO restaurant in Gourmet Traveller that is not also in AGF and with an almost identical rating.<br />
If Bistro G was really the best restaurant of the year it would be a sad reflection on Melbournes restaurants. It fails in so many areas. The two hats is a great promotion but give it a little time and diners will get its true measure.<br />
We need something like the Zagat guide. Meantime I find word of mouth and consulting food blogs quite useful.<br />
Better luck with your future culinary adventures</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geraldine, my French I&#039;m afraid is in the same category as Elliott. I think the media here get aexcited over what is new. Perpahs if the The Good Food Guide&#039;s deadlines were not so far back it may have gone to another restaurant outside the casino. I think it is a shame that casino is tending to take the limelight and when people come to Melbourne they think that that is all food is about here when there is so much more to explore. I think that perhaps us bloggers should do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geraldine, my French I&#8217;m afraid is in the same category as Elliott. I think the media here get aexcited over what is new. Perpahs if the The Good Food Guide&#8217;s deadlines were not so far back it may have gone to another restaurant outside the casino. I think it is a shame that casino is tending to take the limelight and when people come to Melbourne they think that that is all food is about here when there is so much more to explore. I think that perhaps us bloggers should do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Geraldine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geraldine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Elliot for your comment.You understand french very well.
You are absolutely right and I&#039;m pretty sure that Melbourne is full of great restaurants, but I&#039;m all the more disappointed that Bistro Guillaume is awarded &quot;best restaurant of the Year&quot; and icing on the cake, has two hats in the Age Good Food Guide...it&#039;s such a shame.
Please don&#039;t spend your money for disanchantment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Elliot for your comment.You understand french very well.<br />
You are absolutely right and I&#8217;m pretty sure that Melbourne is full of great restaurants, but I&#8217;m all the more disappointed that Bistro Guillaume is awarded &#8220;best restaurant of the Year&#8221; and icing on the cake, has two hats in the Age Good Food Guide&#8230;it&#8217;s such a shame.<br />
Please don&#8217;t spend your money for disanchantment.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Geraldine
Despite my severely limited French I get the tenor of your remarks and want to sat that I deeply regret that you had to suffer such an apalling experience in Melbourne. There are so many less pretentious, more &#039;honest&#039; restaurants serving very good food at far more reasonable prices - and you don&#039;t have to ask three times for water, nor pay $10/ bottle. Many people have commented to me about defects at B.G. I had intended to go there again but I have now had so many negative comments that it&#039;s off my agenda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Geraldine<br />
Despite my severely limited French I get the tenor of your remarks and want to sat that I deeply regret that you had to suffer such an apalling experience in Melbourne. There are so many less pretentious, more &#8216;honest&#8217; restaurants serving very good food at far more reasonable prices &#8211; and you don&#8217;t have to ask three times for water, nor pay $10/ bottle. Many people have commented to me about defects at B.G. I had intended to go there again but I have now had so many negative comments that it&#8217;s off my agenda</p>
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		<title>By: Geraldine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geraldine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nous avons dine hier soir au &quot;Bistro Guillaume&quot; et ne pouvons nous empecher aujourd&#039;hui d&#039;ajouter un commentaire.
Notre reservation etait a 21h30 .L&#039;hotesse nous accompagne a notre table, nous donne les cartes, nous demande quelle eau nous souhaitons boire, nous choisissons de l&#039;eau gazeuse.Notre serveur, Richard, vient a notre table, se presenter et nous annoncer a la vitesse de l&#039;eclair, les plats speciaux ne figurant pas sur le menu, et finit en nous demandant quelle eau nous souhaitons boire, nous repondons pour la seconde fois, gazeuse.  
Entrees:Avant de reserver au &quot;Bistro Guillaume&quot;, j&#039;avais deja choisi de gouter les escargots, en tant qu&#039;amatrice, j&#039;allais opter pour une douzaine a $21 annonce sur le site du restaurant.Decue de constater que sur le menu que l&#039;on m&#039;a donnee, la douzaine d&#039;escargots etaient a $39 dollars, la 1/2 douzaine est a $21.Je decide de choisir les escargots, j&#039;adore ca, autant me faire se plaisir, surtout que les critiques sont bonnes.Mon invite choisi un assortiment de charcuterie(saucisson sec, jambon de Pays, terrine maison)un special du jour.
En un temps record , un autre serveur nous apporte nos entrees (et nous redemande par la meme occasion si nous souhaitons boire de l&#039;eau, nous lui retorquons que nous avons deja choisi de l&#039;eau gazeuse)un plat en terre cuite rempli d&#039;huile, de persil et d&#039;ail ou l&#039;on distinguait a peine les petits mollusques servi avec quelques mouillettes passees sur le grill et brulees pour certaines.Toute cette huile ne me fait pas peur et je pars a la recherche de mon mollusque adore.La deception m&#039;empare, les escargots n&#039;ont aucun gout et la matiere grasse m&#039;ecoeure assez vite, le melange ail-persil m&#039;emporte la bouche et me laisse un gout amer.Je parviens a finir mes escargots, a $39 le plat, je culpabilise d&#039;en laisser un.Et me dit, il est bien loin le temps ou l&#039;on reclamait davantage de pain au serveur pour ne pas laisser une goutte du delicieux beurre persille!L&#039;assiette de charcuterie est chiche, 3 tranches de saucisson absolument pas sec, du jambon absolument trop sec, une micro quenelle de rillette facon Bordeau Chesnel sans sel et sans poivre,...restons confiants pour la suite et deux points positifs:La fameuse  bouteille d&#039;eau tant attendue fait son entree et le vin que nous avons choisi tous seuls comme des grands (puisque nous n&#039;avons pas vu l&#039;ombre d&#039;un sommelier-avec une carte de vin si complete, il serait plus que necessaire d&#039;avoir quelques recommandations, bref...)s&#039;avere etre tres bon.Comme quoi, nous n&#039;avions pas reellement besoin d&#039;un specialiste.
Plats: Thon grille sur un lit de ratatouille pour moi et confit de canard et choux de Bruxelles pour mon invite.
Ma tranche de poisson est epaisse et presque crue a l&#039;interieur, mais plutot bonne , j&#039;aurai attendue qu&#039;on me parle de cette cuisson particuliere , apres tout j&#039;adore le tataki de thon, alors...La ratatouille est surprenante avec de la coriandre, je m&#039;attendais a une version classique.
Le confit est bien cuit mais trop sale, les choux de Bruxelles, tres tendres et digestes.
Plutot decue de mon experience je souhaite en finir rapidement et de ne pas prendre de desserts.Mon invite inconditionnel de la tarte au citron veut finir sur note sucree encourageante.Il se laisse donc tenter par  la tarte au citron et je choisis l&#039;assiette de petits fours.
L&#039;indelicate part de tarte arrive, la pate est epaisse brulee sur le dessous , insipide, la creme au beurre citronnee a fait place a une sorte de creme patissiere aromatisee au citron...nouvelle deception et la cerise sur le gateau, l&#039;assiette de petits-fours.Un bon point pour la truffe en chocolat, un tres mauvais point pour la pseudo tuile epaisse d&#039;un demi-centimetre et trop cuite.Ratee.Meme au Lycee Hotelier, on ne sert pas aux eleves nos essais rates.
Decus et frustres, nous decidons de parler a notre serveur.Il nous explique que le personnel est assez nouveau, que le manager n&#039;est pas la, qu&#039;il espere qu&#039;on leur donnera une autre chance une autre fois, nous repondons que non.Cela ne lui fait ni chaud, ni froid, il connaissait bien son speech de justifications sur la mediocrite, c&#039;est plutot rassurant puisqu&#039;il devait etre prepare a le dire assez souvent.
Pour resume, on a depense $240 (incluant une bouteille de vin a $65 et l&#039;eau a $10, reste $165 de deception)on ne peut pas dire que &quot;Bistro Guillaume&quot; est un restaurant &quot;bon marche&quot;, on ne peut pas non plus ne pas s&#039;attendre a quelque chose de bien en venant y manger.C&#039;est pretencieux que de servir de cette maniere des plats de cette qualite et le pire c&#039;est quand le personnel se moque pertinement des remarques du client.Alors au &quot;Bistro Guillaume&quot;, non le client n&#039;est pas Roi et la pretention  a fait place a l&#039;arrogance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nous avons dine hier soir au &#8220;Bistro Guillaume&#8221; et ne pouvons nous empecher aujourd&#8217;hui d&#8217;ajouter un commentaire.<br />
Notre reservation etait a 21h30 .L&#8217;hotesse nous accompagne a notre table, nous donne les cartes, nous demande quelle eau nous souhaitons boire, nous choisissons de l&#8217;eau gazeuse.Notre serveur, Richard, vient a notre table, se presenter et nous annoncer a la vitesse de l&#8217;eclair, les plats speciaux ne figurant pas sur le menu, et finit en nous demandant quelle eau nous souhaitons boire, nous repondons pour la seconde fois, gazeuse.<br />
Entrees:Avant de reserver au &#8220;Bistro Guillaume&#8221;, j&#8217;avais deja choisi de gouter les escargots, en tant qu&#8217;amatrice, j&#8217;allais opter pour une douzaine a $21 annonce sur le site du restaurant.Decue de constater que sur le menu que l&#8217;on m&#8217;a donnee, la douzaine d&#8217;escargots etaient a $39 dollars, la 1/2 douzaine est a $21.Je decide de choisir les escargots, j&#8217;adore ca, autant me faire se plaisir, surtout que les critiques sont bonnes.Mon invite choisi un assortiment de charcuterie(saucisson sec, jambon de Pays, terrine maison)un special du jour.<br />
En un temps record , un autre serveur nous apporte nos entrees (et nous redemande par la meme occasion si nous souhaitons boire de l&#8217;eau, nous lui retorquons que nous avons deja choisi de l&#8217;eau gazeuse)un plat en terre cuite rempli d&#8217;huile, de persil et d&#8217;ail ou l&#8217;on distinguait a peine les petits mollusques servi avec quelques mouillettes passees sur le grill et brulees pour certaines.Toute cette huile ne me fait pas peur et je pars a la recherche de mon mollusque adore.La deception m&#8217;empare, les escargots n&#8217;ont aucun gout et la matiere grasse m&#8217;ecoeure assez vite, le melange ail-persil m&#8217;emporte la bouche et me laisse un gout amer.Je parviens a finir mes escargots, a $39 le plat, je culpabilise d&#8217;en laisser un.Et me dit, il est bien loin le temps ou l&#8217;on reclamait davantage de pain au serveur pour ne pas laisser une goutte du delicieux beurre persille!L&#8217;assiette de charcuterie est chiche, 3 tranches de saucisson absolument pas sec, du jambon absolument trop sec, une micro quenelle de rillette facon Bordeau Chesnel sans sel et sans poivre,&#8230;restons confiants pour la suite et deux points positifs:La fameuse  bouteille d&#8217;eau tant attendue fait son entree et le vin que nous avons choisi tous seuls comme des grands (puisque nous n&#8217;avons pas vu l&#8217;ombre d&#8217;un sommelier-avec une carte de vin si complete, il serait plus que necessaire d&#8217;avoir quelques recommandations, bref&#8230;)s&#8217;avere etre tres bon.Comme quoi, nous n&#8217;avions pas reellement besoin d&#8217;un specialiste.<br />
Plats: Thon grille sur un lit de ratatouille pour moi et confit de canard et choux de Bruxelles pour mon invite.<br />
Ma tranche de poisson est epaisse et presque crue a l&#8217;interieur, mais plutot bonne , j&#8217;aurai attendue qu&#8217;on me parle de cette cuisson particuliere , apres tout j&#8217;adore le tataki de thon, alors&#8230;La ratatouille est surprenante avec de la coriandre, je m&#8217;attendais a une version classique.<br />
Le confit est bien cuit mais trop sale, les choux de Bruxelles, tres tendres et digestes.<br />
Plutot decue de mon experience je souhaite en finir rapidement et de ne pas prendre de desserts.Mon invite inconditionnel de la tarte au citron veut finir sur note sucree encourageante.Il se laisse donc tenter par  la tarte au citron et je choisis l&#8217;assiette de petits fours.<br />
L&#8217;indelicate part de tarte arrive, la pate est epaisse brulee sur le dessous , insipide, la creme au beurre citronnee a fait place a une sorte de creme patissiere aromatisee au citron&#8230;nouvelle deception et la cerise sur le gateau, l&#8217;assiette de petits-fours.Un bon point pour la truffe en chocolat, un tres mauvais point pour la pseudo tuile epaisse d&#8217;un demi-centimetre et trop cuite.Ratee.Meme au Lycee Hotelier, on ne sert pas aux eleves nos essais rates.<br />
Decus et frustres, nous decidons de parler a notre serveur.Il nous explique que le personnel est assez nouveau, que le manager n&#8217;est pas la, qu&#8217;il espere qu&#8217;on leur donnera une autre chance une autre fois, nous repondons que non.Cela ne lui fait ni chaud, ni froid, il connaissait bien son speech de justifications sur la mediocrite, c&#8217;est plutot rassurant puisqu&#8217;il devait etre prepare a le dire assez souvent.<br />
Pour resume, on a depense $240 (incluant une bouteille de vin a $65 et l&#8217;eau a $10, reste $165 de deception)on ne peut pas dire que &#8220;Bistro Guillaume&#8221; est un restaurant &#8220;bon marche&#8221;, on ne peut pas non plus ne pas s&#8217;attendre a quelque chose de bien en venant y manger.C&#8217;est pretencieux que de servir de cette maniere des plats de cette qualite et le pire c&#8217;est quand le personnel se moque pertinement des remarques du client.Alors au &#8220;Bistro Guillaume&#8221;, non le client n&#8217;est pas Roi et la pretention  a fait place a l&#8217;arrogance.</p>
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